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	<title>Comments on: RVAEats.com &#8211; All Restaurants Invited</title>
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	<description>Sometimes, I get a good feeling.</description>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://rvanews.com/etc/rvaeatscom-all-restaurants-invited/3199#comment-1299</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 13:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Rad, that is a valid critique of a restaurant search engine.  That&#039;s not what this site is/will be though.  This is a local restaurant directory(with a search feature) and in phase two hopefully a social network for people who like to eat out.  It&#039;s not worth developing a local site on a Pay-Per-Click advertising model and if you really want search you should goto: http://local.google.com/ and search for something like &quot;italian restaurant near richmond, va&quot; and you&#039;ll get great results.  We want to be a compliment to that, be a good way for restaurants to get found locally and build a sustainable business model for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rad, that is a valid critique of a restaurant search engine.  That&#8217;s not what this site is/will be though.  This is a local restaurant directory(with a search feature) and in phase two hopefully a social network for people who like to eat out.  It&#8217;s not worth developing a local site on a Pay-Per-Click advertising model and if you really want search you should goto: <a href="http://local.google.com/" rel="nofollow">http://local.google.com/</a> and search for something like &#8220;italian restaurant near richmond, va&#8221; and you&#8217;ll get great results.  We want to be a compliment to that, be a good way for restaurants to get found locally and build a sustainable business model for it.</p>
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		<title>By: WmBragg</title>
		<link>http://rvanews.com/etc/rvaeatscom-all-restaurants-invited/3199#comment-1298</link>
		<dc:creator>WmBragg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 03:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This city needs a good restaurant site. The usual suspects&#039; sites stink to high heaven. I would think restaurants would pay a few bucks to be part of a cool site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This city needs a good restaurant site. The usual suspects&#8217; sites stink to high heaven. I would think restaurants would pay a few bucks to be part of a cool site.</p>
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		<title>By: Rad</title>
		<link>http://rvanews.com/etc/rvaeatscom-all-restaurants-invited/3199#comment-1297</link>
		<dc:creator>Rad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re telling me people have to subscribe to end up in your search results? What you&#039;re proposing is a walled garden...very 1998, not 2008.  

Have you not learned anything about search?  It needs to be free both for the searcher and the company being searched.  Forcing someone to pay $144 to end up in your search results will be this site&#039;s undoing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re telling me people have to subscribe to end up in your search results? What you&#8217;re proposing is a walled garden&#8230;very 1998, not 2008.  </p>
<p>Have you not learned anything about search?  It needs to be free both for the searcher and the company being searched.  Forcing someone to pay $144 to end up in your search results will be this site&#8217;s undoing.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Pharr</title>
		<link>http://rvanews.com/etc/rvaeatscom-all-restaurants-invited/3199#comment-1296</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Pharr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if you know any restaurant owners then let us know or &lt;a href=&quot;http://rvaeats.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pass the site&lt;/a&gt; on to them. 

Thanks for all the GREAT feedback!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if you know any restaurant owners then let us know or <a href="http://rvaeats.com" rel="nofollow">pass the site</a> on to them. </p>
<p>Thanks for all the GREAT feedback!</p>
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		<title>By: The804.com&#8211;Richmond VA Real Estate Blog &#187; Glutton Roundup: RVAEats, Moshi, FBI, Lakeside, Charburger, Popkins, City Limit, Irish Bars, and Ricotta Cake</title>
		<link>http://rvanews.com/etc/rvaeatscom-all-restaurants-invited/3199#comment-1295</link>
		<dc:creator>The804.com&#8211;Richmond VA Real Estate Blog &#187; Glutton Roundup: RVAEats, Moshi, FBI, Lakeside, Charburger, Popkins, City Limit, Irish Bars, and Ricotta Cake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 03:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] RVANews, new Richmond restaurant site RVAEats.com is getting ready to launch (see press release  RVAEats.com- All Restaurants Invited &#124; Get On The Menu of Richmond&#8217;s New Restaurant Web Site!)  Having a google map navigation [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] RVANews, new Richmond restaurant site RVAEats.com is getting ready to launch (see press release  RVAEats.com- All Restaurants Invited | Get On The Menu of Richmond&#8217;s New Restaurant Web Site!)  Having a google map navigation [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
		<link>http://rvanews.com/etc/rvaeatscom-all-restaurants-invited/3199#comment-1294</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 02:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhhhh....I just wanna get my eat on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhhhh&#8230;.I just wanna get my eat on.</p>
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		<title>By: RVA Foodie</title>
		<link>http://rvanews.com/etc/rvaeatscom-all-restaurants-invited/3199#comment-1291</link>
		<dc:creator>RVA Foodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for taking my question about feedback seriously.  Consumer advocacy is one of my passions, but it doesn&#039;t have to be the mission of RVAEats. Considering the participatory potential of Web 2.0 technology, I didn&#039;t figure RVAEats was going to settle for building a better phone book.  If this thing weren&#039;t driven by restaurant buy-in, I think it&#039;d be a different story altogether.         

The rating system is curious, but ratings are one dimensional and can be really misleading.  Domino&#039;s predictable product may wind up with 5 stars, while 8 1/2 gets 3 stars because the pizza doesn&#039;t have parma-blasted stuffed crust and there&#039;s no place to sit.  So, nuance necessitates comments.    

River City Rapids has a post up that says comments may be allowed at the restaurant&#039;s discretion.  But you can&#039;t force a respect for feedback on a restaurateur and after a couple bitter pills, they’ll probably shut that option down quick.  Further, I just don&#039;t know if it&#039;s a reasonable expectation that a disgruntled diner is going to get the owner of a restaurant on the phone and explain that s/he paid twice because they just spent longer on the toilet than they did in the dining room.  Hence, the need for a sober-minded and dehydrated comment section (that will nonetheless be spoiled by a few bad apples).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking my question about feedback seriously.  Consumer advocacy is one of my passions, but it doesn&#8217;t have to be the mission of RVAEats. Considering the participatory potential of Web 2.0 technology, I didn&#8217;t figure RVAEats was going to settle for building a better phone book.  If this thing weren&#8217;t driven by restaurant buy-in, I think it&#8217;d be a different story altogether.         </p>
<p>The rating system is curious, but ratings are one dimensional and can be really misleading.  Domino&#8217;s predictable product may wind up with 5 stars, while 8 1/2 gets 3 stars because the pizza doesn&#8217;t have parma-blasted stuffed crust and there&#8217;s no place to sit.  So, nuance necessitates comments.    </p>
<p>River City Rapids has a post up that says comments may be allowed at the restaurant&#8217;s discretion.  But you can&#8217;t force a respect for feedback on a restaurateur and after a couple bitter pills, they’ll probably shut that option down quick.  Further, I just don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s a reasonable expectation that a disgruntled diner is going to get the owner of a restaurant on the phone and explain that s/he paid twice because they just spent longer on the toilet than they did in the dining room.  Hence, the need for a sober-minded and dehydrated comment section (that will nonetheless be spoiled by a few bad apples).</p>
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		<title>By: John witherspoon</title>
		<link>http://rvanews.com/etc/rvaeatscom-all-restaurants-invited/3199#comment-1290</link>
		<dc:creator>John witherspoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW
That is fantastic - glad to hear and it is definitely a long time coming.

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW<br />
That is fantastic &#8211; glad to hear and it is definitely a long time coming.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: Valerie</title>
		<link>http://rvanews.com/etc/rvaeatscom-all-restaurants-invited/3199#comment-1289</link>
		<dc:creator>Valerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He got that idea from me. As he does with everything. Haha jk, I&#039;m useless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He got that idea from me. As he does with everything. Haha jk, I&#8217;m useless.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Howson</title>
		<link>http://rvanews.com/etc/rvaeatscom-all-restaurants-invited/3199#comment-1287</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Howson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....especially AN average, I meant to type.

Also would it be legit to link to reviews on other people&#039;s sites instead?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.especially AN average, I meant to type.</p>
<p>Also would it be legit to link to reviews on other people&#8217;s sites instead?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Howson</title>
		<link>http://rvanews.com/etc/rvaeatscom-all-restaurants-invited/3199#comment-1286</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Howson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think ratings are nice and vague, especially and average. After all, it&#039;s not YOUR fault if everybody hates a restaurant. The restaurant should be like &quot;oh. Well. Crap. Back to the drawing board.&quot;

What if the restaurant could make comments? Like, &quot;Lately we&#039;ve heard some complaints abuot our wine selection - you&#039;ll be happy to know we&#039;ve hired a new sommalier and we&#039;re really excited about her choices!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think ratings are nice and vague, especially and average. After all, it&#8217;s not YOUR fault if everybody hates a restaurant. The restaurant should be like &#8220;oh. Well. Crap. Back to the drawing board.&#8221;</p>
<p>What if the restaurant could make comments? Like, &#8220;Lately we&#8217;ve heard some complaints abuot our wine selection &#8211; you&#8217;ll be happy to know we&#8217;ve hired a new sommalier and we&#8217;re really excited about her choices!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
		<link>http://rvanews.com/etc/rvaeatscom-all-restaurants-invited/3199#comment-1285</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yipppeeee!  RVAeats. Can&#039;t wait.  I love finding great places to eat Richmond, especially of the non-chain variety.

Thanks for doing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yipppeeee!  RVAeats. Can&#8217;t wait.  I love finding great places to eat Richmond, especially of the non-chain variety.</p>
<p>Thanks for doing this.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Pharr</title>
		<link>http://rvanews.com/etc/rvaeatscom-all-restaurants-invited/3199#comment-1284</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Pharr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmmmhmm ..I&#039;ve heard that from someone else too. Oh wait it was your husband.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmmmhmm ..I&#8217;ve heard that from someone else too. Oh wait it was your husband.</p>
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		<title>By: Valerie</title>
		<link>http://rvanews.com/etc/rvaeatscom-all-restaurants-invited/3199#comment-1283</link>
		<dc:creator>Valerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>STARS! Do averages of visitors&#039; ratings. LET THE PEOPLE HAVE THEIR SAY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>STARS! Do averages of visitors&#8217; ratings. LET THE PEOPLE HAVE THEIR SAY!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://rvanews.com/etc/rvaeatscom-all-restaurants-invited/3199#comment-1281</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure how this would work.  But what if readers wanting to leave comments had to register with the site (no anon).  Each registered user gets points based on positive and negative comments he leaves.  That way Joe Blow who is thinking about going to Cous Cous won&#039;t be bothered by the 1 bad comment that soso made because he has a history of leaving bad comments.  Did I make any sense?  Kind of like e-bay but without the buying of stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure how this would work.  But what if readers wanting to leave comments had to register with the site (no anon).  Each registered user gets points based on positive and negative comments he leaves.  That way Joe Blow who is thinking about going to Cous Cous won&#8217;t be bothered by the 1 bad comment that soso made because he has a history of leaving bad comments.  Did I make any sense?  Kind of like e-bay but without the buying of stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Pharr</title>
		<link>http://rvanews.com/etc/rvaeatscom-all-restaurants-invited/3199#comment-1277</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Pharr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We talked about having heavy moderated comments, we also have talked about linking to reviews from the RTD, Richmond.com, Style, etc. We agree though that restaurants shouldn&#039;t pay for bad reviews on their listing, but it would be nice (I would hope) for people to voice concerns straight to the owners, just maybe not for the public. It&#039;s an ongoing question over here right now. 

The launch will NOT include commenting until we can figure out a great way to deal with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We talked about having heavy moderated comments, we also have talked about linking to reviews from the RTD, Richmond.com, Style, etc. We agree though that restaurants shouldn&#8217;t pay for bad reviews on their listing, but it would be nice (I would hope) for people to voice concerns straight to the owners, just maybe not for the public. It&#8217;s an ongoing question over here right now. </p>
<p>The launch will NOT include commenting until we can figure out a great way to deal with it.</p>
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		<title>By: RVA Foodie</title>
		<link>http://rvanews.com/etc/rvaeatscom-all-restaurants-invited/3199#comment-1275</link>
		<dc:creator>RVA Foodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 04:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure Brandon is flattered to know that all of RVA is taking after her.  

Just curious... Will there be any kind of reputation system or collection of comments for the restaurants?  I know that if an eatery pays for its listing, they wouldn&#039;t want trash talking attached to their ad.  However, feedback (critical and positive) can be useful both to consumers and businesses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure Brandon is flattered to know that all of RVA is taking after her.  </p>
<p>Just curious&#8230; Will there be any kind of reputation system or collection of comments for the restaurants?  I know that if an eatery pays for its listing, they wouldn&#8217;t want trash talking attached to their ad.  However, feedback (critical and positive) can be useful both to consumers and businesses.</p>
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		<title>By: RVAjazz</title>
		<link>http://rvanews.com/etc/rvaeatscom-all-restaurants-invited/3199#comment-1271</link>
		<dc:creator>RVAjazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great!  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great!  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: The Fan District Hub &#187; Blog Archive &#187; All Restaurants Invited</title>
		<link>http://rvanews.com/etc/rvaeatscom-all-restaurants-invited/3199#comment-1270</link>
		<dc:creator>The Fan District Hub &#187; Blog Archive &#187; All Restaurants Invited</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] here to read the entire [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tess</title>
		<link>http://rvanews.com/etc/rvaeatscom-all-restaurants-invited/3199#comment-1267</link>
		<dc:creator>Tess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally!!!!!!!!!

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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